Blackjack 15 Vs 7

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Blackjack Strategy Chart (2020) - Become the best at the online casino card game. Learn when to hit, stand, double down, split and so on in the guide. My blackjack appendix 9 is good for questions such as this. A match play is worth just about half of face value. So if the expected value of the hand is less than -1/3 you should surrender. Assuming the dealer hits a soft 17 here are those times. 10-A; Player 12 vs. 9-A; Player 13 vs. 8-A; Player 14 vs. 8-A; Player 15 vs. In basic Blackjack etiquette, you can do this by softly scratching your cards against the Blackjack table to indicate to the dealer that you want another card – when it’s your turn, of course. If you start out with a King and a 5, that’s a hard total of 15. Remember, because a King = 10, and 10 + 5 = 15. Another similar situation is 15 vs. 83% of the time (with a 10+5 or 8+7, but not 9+6), this results in a running count of -1 the first hand after a shuffle, and the index number to surrender is 0. Rounding down would cause the player to incorrectly hit, when surrendering is better.

I notice quite a few 'ploppies' (as card counters like to call casual blackjack players, though I'm far more of a ploppy than a counter myself) like to stand on the worst stiff hands, 15 & 16, against a dealer's 7. I guess they think it's not worth it to risk busting against a relatively weak dealer upcard, which does have a certain logic to it, admittedly. Still, it does go against the common basic strategy, so what exactly is the cost of doing this? Is it significant, or is it as negligible as standing on 16 vs. 10?
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pocketaces
Far more significant. On 15 (10,5) vs 7, the value of hitting is -0.368927, whereas the value of standing is -0.475708. The numbers for 16 are a bit closer together but similar.
The reason of course is if you make a hand of 17-21 against a 7 you are very likely to win (or push). Against a 10, you still lose a lot even if you make a hand of 17, 18, or 19, so hitting has less value.
A 7 is only a 'weak dealer card' if you have made a hand of 17-21. Then it's great. Otherwise, it busts only slightly more often than a 10. You should never stand on any stiff hand against it, it's not even near borderline.
OneAngryDwarf
Makes sense. Thanks.
'I believe I've passed the age/of consciousness and righteous rage/I've found that just surviving was a noble fight... I once believed in causes too/I had my pointless point of view/And life went on no matter who was wrong or right...' --Billy Joel
pacomartin
It is a very common mistake. It just feels bad to bust when the dealer only has a 7. Wizard of Odds appendix 9 tells you all the expected values, so you can look up how much of a mistake it would be to go against strategy. However, the previous answer is correct. Standing on a dealer 7 is much worse than standing on a dealer 10 when you have a hard 16.

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newbieplayer
I'm sure this question has been asked on this forum about a million times prior but I could not locate it in the index and I couldn't utilize the search function.
Playing with 6 decks in the shoe, I'm dealt a 16, dealer is showing a 7 card. Should I hit or stay? If the answer is different for hard or soft 16 then please let me know.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
newbieplayer
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I'm sure this question has been asked on this forum about a million times prior but I could not locate it in the index and I couldn't utilize the search function.
Playing with 6 decks in the shoe, I'm dealt a 16, dealer is showing a 7 card. Should I hit or stay? If the answer is different for hard or soft 16 then please let me know.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
newbieplayer


Welcome, newbieplayer. HIT! It's not even close. Had you said against a 10 there would be a couple of different answers and a little more discussion.
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
beachbumbabs
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Look here for your answer, and great info on basic strategy. .
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hit soft or hard 16 on dealer 7 whether dealer hits or stands on soft 17

Welcome to the forum!
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
Tanko
I notice the Blackjack game in the games section is not working.
Neither is Baccarat or Mississippi Stud.
TwoFeathersATL

I notice the Blackjack game in the games section is not working.
Neither is Baccarat or Mississippi Stud.


Wasn't working? Or you were just losing? That was another feeble attempt at a joke.
Not sure where to report a system problem, probably not in the middle of a thread under BJ.
But I'm just guessing.....Blackjack 15 vs 7 inch
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
beachbumbabs
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I notice the Blackjack game in the games section is not working.
Neither is Baccarat or Mississippi Stud.


I'm guessing they know, but I'll drop a note to JB; I'm pretty sure he programmed them. He'll either look into it himself, or he'll know who needs to fix it.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
Tanko
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Thanks.
I was going to recommend it to the OP since it gives correct play advice.

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beachbumbabs
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JB's checking it out.

Blackjack 16 Vs 7

If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
charliepatrick
(1) You always hit Soft 16 (e.g. A 2 3) against any dealer up-card. In some circumstances, but not against a 7, you double A5.
(2) When playing perfect strategy I suspect you hit 16 vs 7 over 99% of the time. Thus unless you're memorising what's gone, you should always hit.
(3) As people have suggested (ignoring the surrender option) it is usually correct to hit all 16s against dealer up-cards of A, 10, 9, 8 and 7. The decision is more obvious against a 7 and gradually less obvious against 8, 9 and 10. In fact if you're counting there are many occasions when you stand on 16 vs 10, and a few on 16 vs 9.
rsactuary

Blackjack 15 Vs 7 Mm

I was in Tunica this past weekend, playing some BJ at a $25 table and he said the number of people staying on 16 against a bust card has increased significantly over the past two years or so. Not sure I would be able to pinpoint why the sudden surge, but he said he's seeing a lot of it these days.